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Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 11:49
Marmot
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Why is there I cannot find a SINGLE case of mass shooting and mass murder in USA in court rooms, police stations, shooting ranges and so ?
Вы просто не очень хорошо информированны :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting
I know about this one bud, maybe we should ban guns in army too ? LOL :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Тогда зачем был задан процитированный мною вопрос? Что вы хотели этим сказать?

More legal guns less victims.
Less gun free zones, less victims.
Мировая статистика не на Вашей стороне...

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 11:49
ereksa
Marmot писал(а):
ereksa писал(а): I am for a federal level of control on weapons that IS CURRENTLY in effect in USA. Is this eligible answer to your question?
Ок, значит вы, в принципе, за контроль и ограничение государством своего человеческого права? Я правильно понял?
Buddy it's not time to play gotcha politics.
I can accept what you say just to make you happy and glorious, but if I am not mistaken we are debating here the case, and offering some possible solutions/ways.

Read I posted an article that outlines a simple example of a solution.

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 11:52
ereksa
Marmot писал(а): Мировая статистика не на Вашей стороне...
I posted an article about US example. Maybe you can spend several minutes and read it before you post?

You have to compare apples with apples. Cant compare USA with Namibia, Swaziland, India, Bangladesh, China, Russia and Belgium and be accurate. People are different, culture is different hence solutions have to be different.

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 11:55
Marmot
ereksa писал(а):
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ereksa писал(а): I am for a federal level of control on weapons that IS CURRENTLY in effect in USA. Is this eligible answer to your question?
Ок, значит вы, в принципе, за контроль и ограничение государством своего человеческого права? Я правильно понял?
Buddy it's not time to play gotcha politics.
I can accept what you say just to make you happy and glorious, but if I am not mistaken we are debating here the case, and offering some possible solutions/ways.

Read I posted an article that outlines a simple example of a solution.
Так я просто пытаюсь продемонстрировать логическую несостоятельность Ваших предпосылок...

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 11:55
Marmot
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Marmot писал(а): Мировая статистика не на Вашей стороне...
I posted an article about US example. Maybe you can spend several minutes and read it before you post?

You have to compare apples with apples. Cant compare USA with Namibia, Swaziland, India, Bangladesh, China, Russia and Belgium and be accurate. People are different, culture is different hence solutions have to be different.
Ну Штаты и Канаду вполне можно сравнивать....

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:00
ereksa
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Marmot писал(а): Мировая статистика не на Вашей стороне...
I posted an article about US example. Maybe you can spend several minutes and read it before you post?

You have to compare apples with apples. Cant compare USA with Namibia, Swaziland, India, Bangladesh, China, Russia and Belgium and be accurate. People are different, culture is different hence solutions have to be different.
Ну Штаты и Канаду вполне можно сравнивать....
Totally different countries, different economical principles, different people, different culture overall. You are under false impression that if two countries share language, share some common laws and by-laws, share some road signs than probably they must share solutions.

Not at all, America is constitutional republic with all its fruits and joys, Canada is a constitutional monarchy with all its fruits and joys. Cannot compare and flap gun laws in monarchy that is backed with constitution with laws in a republic that is backed with constitution.

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:01
ereksa

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:04
Marmot
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Marmot писал(а): Ну Штаты и Канаду вполне можно сравнивать....
Totally different countries, different economical principles, different people, different culture overall. You are under false impression that if two countries share language, share some common laws and by-laws, share some road signs than probably they must share solutions.

Not at all, America is constitutional republic with all its fruits and joys, Canada is a constitutional monarchy with all its fruits and joys. Cannot compare and flap gun laws in monarchy that is backed with constitution with laws in a republic that is backed with constitution.
Т.е. Вы согласны, что кто Ваше выражение "More legal guns less victims. Less gun free zones, less victims." работает не везде и, к Канаде, например, оно неприменимо?

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:06
ereksa
BTW going back to my argument about gun free zones

Fort Hood WAS A GUN FREE ZONE ...

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:09
Hairy Potter
ereksa писал(а):http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/
Не читайте WND. Мусорное ведро, а не источник информации. Такой бред пишут - Обама-гей-мусульманин и так далее.

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:11
ereksa
Marmot писал(а):
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Marmot писал(а): Ну Штаты и Канаду вполне можно сравнивать....
Totally different countries, different economical principles, different people, different culture overall. You are under false impression that if two countries share language, share some common laws and by-laws, share some road signs than probably they must share solutions.

Not at all, America is constitutional republic with all its fruits and joys, Canada is a constitutional monarchy with all its fruits and joys. Cannot compare and flap gun laws in monarchy that is backed with constitution with laws in a republic that is backed with constitution.
Т.е. Вы согласны, что кто Ваше выражение "More legal guns less victims. Less gun free zones, less victims." работает не везде и, к Канаде, например, оно неприменимо?

Are we talking about Canada? Isn't this topic labeled "Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :((("

Maybe we should straight away discuss gun laws and crime rates in Japan since a crazy man entered a school and killed kinds and adults in USA? Maybe we should discuss gun laws and crime rates in Kazakhstan?

But I will answer your question, right now I see little or no need to change Canadian gun laws, they reflect the society, the mass shooting levels just.

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:14
Игорь Николаевич
Hairy Potter писал(а):
ereksa писал(а):http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/
Не читайте WND. Мусорное ведро, а не источник информации. Такой бред пишут - Обама-гей-мусульманин и так далее.
Похоже, кое у кого в голове тоже много мусора. :(

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:16
Marmot
ereksa писал(а): But I will answer your question, right now I see little or no need to change Canadian gun laws, they reflect the society, the mass shooting levels just.
Ага, тогда я пожалуй спор на этом прекращу, свое отношение к Штатовским законам я высказал в свое время, отказавшись делать ГринКард :)
А там уж они сами пускай разбираются :)

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:18
ereksa
Hairy Potter писал(а):
ereksa писал(а):http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/
Не читайте WND. Мусорное ведро, а не источник информации. Такой бред пишут - Обама-гей-мусульманин и так далее.
Ok don't like WND

maybe Britons ?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5c1b6a72-c5eb ... tml#slide0

or maybe we should read these guys ?

http://rt.com/usa/news/gun-ownership-requirement/

I mean maybe look at official statistics huh ?

Re: Блииин, в Америке опять детей убивают :(((

Добавлено: 17 дек 2012, 12:20
ereksa
Игорь Николаевич писал(а):
Hairy Potter писал(а):
ereksa писал(а):http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/
Не читайте WND. Мусорное ведро, а не источник информации. Такой бред пишут - Обама-гей-мусульманин и так далее.
Похоже, кое у кого в голове тоже много мусора. :(
Uhu, now you take it to the personal. Nice ...