Каморка

Проф. Преображенский писал(а): Что касается прав, то кто сказал, что они должны быть одинаковыми? Не слишком ли просто получить гражданство? Может быть эту простоту следует уравновесить простотой лишения? Иначе слишком много сил будет потрачено на исправление чужих ошибок.

Highlights of Bill C-24

Increases requirement of physical presence in Canada to four out of six years and a minimum of 183 days each of those four years.
Introduces intent to reside provision.
Eliminates use of time spent in Canada as non-permanent resident.
Expands ages of applicants required to meet language requirements and pass knowledge test, up from 18-54 to 14-64. Applicants must meet knowledge requirement in English or French.
Expands bar on getting citizenship to people with foreign criminal charges and convictions.
Increases fines for fraud to $100,000 and five years in prison.
Gives CIC Minister authority to decide on revocation cases.
Establishes authority to revoke Canadian citizenship from dual nationals who were members of an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada and to deny it to permanent residents for same reasons.
Authority to revoke citizenship and deny it to permanent residents who are convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason or spying offences.
Changes decision-making model to a one-step process.
Increases fees for adult applications from $100 to $300.

JuliaR писал(а):Как я поняла, изменения коснутся только тех, у кого кроме канадского имеется, по крайней мере, еще одно гражданство, и не важно, получено канадское гражданство по рождению или в результате иммиграции. Интересно было бы узнать, что подвигло правительство урезать права многогражданцев.

Gadi писал(а):так о чем-таки кудахчем? Я так и не понял.
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Ткните меня в пункт(ы), которые прямо требуют "пролить скупую слезу"?

Establishes authority to revoke Canadian citizenship from dual nationals who were members of an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada and to deny it to permanent residents for same reasons.
Authority to revoke citizenship and deny it to permanent residents who are convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason or spying offences.

- Increases requirement of physical presence in Canada to four out of six years and a minimum of 183 days each of those four years.
- Introduces intent to reside provision.
- Eliminates use of time spent in Canada as non-permanent resident.
- Expands ages of applicants required to meet language requirements and pass knowledge test, up from 18-54 to 14-64. Applicants must meet - knowledge requirement in English or French.
- Expands bar on getting citizenship to people with foreign criminal charges and convictions.
- Increases fines for fraud to $100,000 and five years in prison.
- Gives CIC Minister authority to decide on revocation cases.
- Establishes authority to revoke Canadian citizenship from dual nationals who were members of an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada and to deny it to permanent residents for same reasons.
- Authority to revoke citizenship and deny it to permanent residents who are convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason or spying offences.
- Changes decision-making model to a one-step process.
- Increases fees for adult applications from $100 to $300.

3ABXO3 писал(а):Ладно, сам посмотрел что и как там. Вроде ничего особо этакого в этом нету, вроде. Где урезание прав-та?

- Increases requirement of physical presence in Canada to four out of six years and a minimum of 183 days each of those four years.
- Introduces intent to reside provision.
- Eliminates use of time spent in Canada as non-permanent resident.
- Expands ages of applicants required to meet language requirements and pass knowledge test, up from 18-54 to 14-64. Applicants must meet - knowledge requirement in English or French.
- Expands bar on getting citizenship to people with foreign criminal charges and convictions.
- Increases fines for fraud to $100,000 and five years in prison.
- Gives CIC Minister authority to decide on revocation cases.
- Establishes authority to revoke Canadian citizenship from dual nationals who were members of an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada and to deny it to permanent residents for same reasons.
- Authority to revoke citizenship and deny it to permanent residents who are convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason or spying offences.
- Changes decision-making model to a one-step process.
- Increases fees for adult applications from $100 to $300.

george писал(а):

3ABXO3 писал(а):Ладно, сам посмотрел что и как там. Вроде ничего особо этакого в этом нету, вроде. Где урезание прав-та?

- Increases requirement of physical presence in Canada to four out of six years and a minimum of 183 days each of those four years.
- Introduces intent to reside provision.
- Eliminates use of time spent in Canada as non-permanent resident.
- Expands ages of applicants required to meet language requirements and pass knowledge test, up from 18-54 to 14-64. Applicants must meet - knowledge requirement in English or French.
- Expands bar on getting citizenship to people with foreign criminal charges and convictions.
- Increases fines for fraud to $100,000 and five years in prison.
- Gives CIC Minister authority to decide on revocation cases.
- Establishes authority to revoke Canadian citizenship from dual nationals who were members of an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada and to deny it to permanent residents for same reasons.
- Authority to revoke citizenship and deny it to permanent residents who are convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason or spying offences.
- Changes decision-making model to a one-step process.
- Increases fees for adult applications from $100 to $300.

Единственное что меня покоробило, и почему я подписал петицию - это потому что если я найду работу скажем в Америке, и уеду туда на несколько лет, то теоретически меня могут лишить канадского гражданства. А моего соседа, канадца - не могут.

Marmot писал(а):А это где про такое написано?

3ABXO3 писал(а):

Marmot писал(а):А это где про такое написано?

Наверно про "intent to reside". Чтобы люди не получали гражданство и мчались в штаты за работой.

Marmot писал(а):

Gadi писал(а):так о чем-таки кудахчем? Я так и не понял.
...
Ткните меня в пункт(ы), которые прямо требуют "пролить скупую слезу"?

Похоже, мики, конь, etc вот об этом беспокоятся:

Establishes authority to revoke Canadian citizenship from dual nationals who were members of an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada and to deny it to permanent residents for same reasons.
Authority to revoke citizenship and deny it to permanent residents who are convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason or spying offences.

Что вообщем-то ожидаемо, исходя из их выстулений на Каморке

Marmot писал(а): Похоже, мики, конь, etc вот об этом беспокоятся:

Establishes authority to revoke Canadian citizenship from dual nationals who were members of an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada and to deny it to permanent residents for same reasons.
Authority to revoke citizenship and deny it to permanent residents who are convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason or spying offences.

Что вообщем-то ожидаемо, исходя из их выстулений на Каморке

Marmot писал(а):

3ABXO3 писал(а):

Marmot писал(а):А это где про такое написано?

Наверно про "intent to reside". Чтобы люди не получали гражданство и мчались в штаты за работой.

Но нигде же не написано, что за это будут лишать гражданства... или я чего-то в упор не вижу?

- Increases requirement of physical presence in Canada to four out of six years and a minimum of 183 days each of those four years.

Mushka писал(а): Из 6 лет - 4 надо находиться в Канаде- это много, если работа в другой стране. Я знаю канадцев- пенсионеров, кто проводит меньше 4-х из 6 лет за границей Канады. Это и их коснется, что б не тратили свои пенсии в дешевых странах как Мексика или Эквадор( знаю лично из Онтарио пенсионеров, кто живет постоянно в Кито )

Mushka писал(а):(знаю лично из Онтарио пенсионеров, кто живет постоянно в Кито)