Проф. Преображенский писал(а):То, что Запад подключился половить рыбку в мутной воде - так почему бы и нет?
да, видимо надо проводить ликбез

Запад не подключился ловить рыбку и не просто все это обсуждал а активно направлял, способствовал, содействовал, вбухивал бабки через НКО и проч
Деннис Кусинич (многолетний конгрессмен и в какой-то момент кандидат в президенты) сорвал покровы еще давно
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/russia ... id/556082/
Russia's invasion of Ukraine was spurred by U.S. behind-the-scenes actions, says former Ohio congressman and Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich.
Fox News host Bill O'Reilly on Tuesday accused Kucinich of being a pacifist because of his opposition to the Iraq war, and Kucinich countered that war is wrong but not all U.S. military action is so.
O'Reilly then asked how Kucinich would have handled the Ukraine crisis had he been president.
"What I'd do is not have USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy working with U.S. taxpayers' money to knock off an elected government in Ukraine, which is what they did," Kucinich answered. "I wouldn't try to force the people of Ukraine into a deal with NATO against their interest or into a deal with the European Union, which is against their economic interest."
"So, it's the USA's fault that Putin rolled in? We made them do it?" O'Reilly asked.
"Bill O'Reilly, if you don't believe in cause and effect, I don't know what I can do for you," Kucinich responded.
Kucinich said the United States has been involved covertly and behind the scenes with the CIA and two government foreign aid groups, the National Endowment for Democracy and the United States Agency for International Development, to "stir up trouble in Ukraine."
He didn't specify what the groups had done, but said the democracy endowment had sponsored 65 programs. He said the United States should stay out of Ukraine's affairs and let its people decide their future without outside interference.
As a result, "you've got neo-Nazis that are in control," Kucinich said. He was referring to a statement by Russia's U.N. ambassador in which he called pro-European Ukrainians "anti-Semites and fascists," a claim disputed by many, including CNN's Christiane Amanpour.
вот еще один пост, с кучей ссылочек, изучайте. Это май-2014 и война на Украине уже называется гражданской
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/ ... arted.html
U.S. President Obama is so determined to tie a noose around the neck of Russia, that he has no hesitation about allying himself with Ukrainian supporters of Adolf Hitler in order to achieve it. And, so, the Ukrainian civil war is the result, and it was sparked by the massacre of hundreds of pro-independence civilians in Odessa on May 2nd, by U.S.-sponsored fascists.
In order to understand why southeastern Ukrainians want separation from the people whom Obama placed in control in the country’s northwest during February, in Kiev, just imagine that you are a Russian-speaking Ukrainian who had voted for the winner of the last Presidential election in Ukraine (Viktor Yanukovych had won overwhelmingly in the eastern half of the country), and that he was ousted in a coup on 22 February 2014, and the Obama-Administration-imposed interim government had perpetrated this massacre on May 2nd in Odessa against supporters (like yourself) of that ousted President, and now of independence from the fascists who (after $5 billion+ of U.S. preparation, plus sending U.S. mercenaries) had ousted him and installed the neo-Nazis who organized and perpetrated the May 2nd massacre of former supporters of that now-ousted President, and thus instigated the Ukrainian civil war. Would you feel safe, being ruled by those people, Obama’s people, the fascists who had killed hundreds, all of whom were civilians, in Odessa’s Trade Unions Building, on May 2nd? Would you want to be ruled by people who have shown themselves committed to your own destruction?
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archive ... aine-coup/
Oliver Stone: CIA Fingerprints All Over Ukraine Coup
итд итп. Соучастие других стран в украинском госперевороте это секрет Полишинеля. Я конечно понимаю что сейчас начнут цепляться что Рон Пол, Деннис Кусинич, Пол Грейг Робертс и Оливер Стоун это не то, с ними что-то не так, они левые etc, будут требовать официальные заявления Белого дома и печати Госдепа о соучастии в госперевороте.
короче. Имеющий уши услышит, а если человек притворяется что спит то его не разбудить
