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Гудвин писал(а): ↑17 окт 2022, 21:35 Есть там гос секретарь Салливан. Вот он постоянно вставляет палки в колеса

simon писал(а): ↑17 окт 2022, 20:48 Нет, Байден «сэкономил» деньги (не стал их тратить в закончившемся в октябре финансовом году), выделенные конгрессом для вооружения Украины.

Since the invasion in February, the majority of congressional Republicans and Democrats have united in authorizing billions of dollars in U.S. military and humanitarian assistance to Kyiv as a geopolitical and moral stand against Vladimir Putin’s aggression.

McCarthy, who could be House speaker if Republicans triumph, indicated that that could end in a GOP-led House.

“I think people are gonna be sitting in a recession and they’re not going to write a blank check to Ukraine,” he recently told Punchbowl News. “They just won’t do it.”

McCarthy suggested that Americans want Congress to focus on issues closer to home.


“There’s the things [the Biden administration] is not doing domestically,” he said. “Not doing the border, and people begin to weigh that. Ukraine is important, but at the same time, it can’t be the only thing they do, and it can’t be a blank check.”

The United States has authorized upward of $60 billion in aid to Ukraine, with more than $18.2 billion in security assistance given since January 2021. The Senate voted to finalize more than $40 billion in new military and humanitarian assistance in May, with Republicans being the only lawmakers voting against that package — the largest investment in Ukraine thus far.

Eleven Republican senators and 57 House GOP members opposed the legislation, arguing that more needs to be done to account for how the money is spent and to trace weapons and equipment sent to the battlefield.

simon писал(а): ↑18 окт 2022, 08:35

Гудвин писал(а): ↑17 окт 2022, 21:35 Есть там гос секретарь Салливан. Вот он постоянно вставляет палки в колеса

Это неважно, Байден, как президент, несёт ответственность за принимаемые решения, идущие в том числе в разрез с демократическим конгрессом

Hairy Potter писал(а): ↑18 окт 2022, 10:42 Не удивлен кстати.
McCarthy signals GOP-led House likely to oppose more aid to Ukraine

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McCarthy, who could be House speaker if Republicans triumph, indicated that that could end in a GOP-led House.
“I think people are gonna be sitting in a recession and they’re not going to write a blank check to Ukraine,” he recently told Punchbowl News. “They just won’t do it.”
McCarthy suggested that Americans want Congress to focus on issues closer to home.
“There’s the things [the Biden administration] is not doing domestically,” he said. “Not doing the border, and people begin to weigh that. Ukraine is important, but at the same time, it can’t be the only thing they do, and it can’t be a blank check.”
The United States has authorized upward of $60 billion in aid to Ukraine, with more than $18.2 billion in security assistance given since January 2021. The Senate voted to finalize more than $40 billion in new military and humanitarian assistance in May, with Republicans being the only lawmakers voting against that package — the largest investment in Ukraine thus far.
Eleven Republican senators and 57 House GOP members opposed the legislation, arguing that more needs to be done to account for how the money is spent and to trace weapons and equipment sent to the battlefield.

Stanislav писал(а): ↑18 окт 2022, 09:31

simon писал(а): ↑17 окт 2022, 20:48 Нет, Байден «сэкономил» деньги (не стал их тратить в закончившемся в октябре финансовом году), выделенные конгрессом для вооружения Украины.

Ну... Байден не посылает деньги на Украину - он покупает на них оружие. Чтобы потратить деньги, надо, чтобы было на что их потратить - если оружие еще не произведено - его нельзя купить. Технически, Байден мог бы купить оружие где-нить еше, но я не думаю, что Америка выделяет деньги для поддержки ВПК других стран Америка выделяет деньги для покупки оружия у американских производителей

mikei писал(а): ↑18 окт 2022, 22:37 Обама тоже обкурился.

Obama has admitted his failure in Iran, but what of Crimea? What of Syria? Worse, why make the same mistakes again now? He's more subtle, of course, but his comments about limits are the same vein of appeasement as Musk's.
Putin is bragging about attacks on Ukrainian civilians and infrastructure, acts of terror. Resolve and deterrence are required, not preemptive self-deterrence that convinces Putin he can get away with even the unimaginable.
Saying Ukraine's defense cannot be allowed to expand into a war with NATO is absurd when Putin already launched that war, long ago. Ignoring it in 2014 didn't make it go away. There's no guarantee of security, but appeasement guarantees escalation.
Putin has shown over and over that he talks big against strength but only acts against weakness. Russia is waging a war of extermination and is preparing new attacks on Kyiv and the north. Stop lecturing Ukraine about limits and stop Putin.
Iran is now an active participant in the murder of Ukrainian civilians. Where are the red lines, this time to be enforced? Are Iranian drone factories underground with its nuclear program? It's a war, and pretending it's not is how you lose.
The West has overwhelming advantages but, as in 2014, is rushing to take things off the table to reassure terrorist dictatorships they are free to escalate when they like. They are afraid of victory and so guarantee more conflict, more deaths.

simon писал(а): ↑19 окт 2022, 12:59 Каспаров публично возразил Обаме https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1582 ... 21025.html

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Ах какой "достоверный источник"!...