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Биркин писал(а): а потом гавермент это дело просекает и начинает требовать от спонсора чтобы свои обязательства выполнял

Биркин писал(а):... Это когда спонсируемый сбрасывается на велфер до истечения 10-летнего срока? ....

Stanislav писал(а):

Биркин писал(а):... Это когда спонсируемый сбрасывается на велфер до истечения 10-летнего срока? ....

Это как же? Ведь подписку же давали - типа добровольно обязуюсь и соглашуюсь....

A landmark ruling by the Ontario Court of Appeal held that Immigrant Sponsors are not automatically required to pay back immigrant debt of the relatives they sponsored despite having signed a Sponsorship Agreement. Rather the Province now has to proceed with the debt collection of Sponsors in the same manner, with the same measure of fairness, as with other government debt scenarios. This means that the government must take into account the full context of the situation of the immigrant sponsors and treat each debt collection on a case-by-case basis.

Despite the somewhat overstated headline in today’s National Post by Natalie Alcoba, the Court’s ruling does not mean that immigrant sponsors are “off the hook” when it comes to sponsorship dept collection. The government will still require that, in most cases immigrant sponsors will have to pay back the money their relatives collect from the government. However, with his ruling, the government has to exercise discretion in the collection process.

The B.C. government is being accused of abusing its power while trying to recoup $50 million in social assistance paid out to new immigrants.

The accusation comes from some sponsors of the immigrants, who are being ordered to pay the money back because rules say sponsored relatives aren't supposed to rely on government assistance and, if they are given social assistance, their sponsors are legally on the hook.

Raziq Amin Ali shows CBC News' Go Public reporter, Kathy Tomlinson, the letter from B.C. Employment and Income Assistance Minister Claude Richmond about Ali's sponsored relatives.Raziq Amin Ali shows CBC News' Go Public reporter, Kathy Tomlinson, the letter from B.C. Employment and Income Assistance Minister Claude Richmond about Ali's sponsored relatives.
(CBC)

One sponsor told CBC News it's a debt he shouldn't owe, because the province neglected to tell him his relatives were receiving assistance in the first place.

"It's daylight robbery," said sponsor Raziq Ali, who is being ordered to return $13,000 plus interest. "This is unfair. It is totally unfair."

People who found themselves with huge debts after sponsoring immigrants have won a landmark decision in Ontario's Court of Appeal.

The court Thursday told the Ontario government to revisit its social assistance collection policies to recover debts owed by residents who sponsored immigrants to Canada.

The court chided both the federal and provincial governments for disregarding the changing circumstances of the sponsors and the people they sponsored with their cut-and-dried collection policies.
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Before 2004, when Ontario created the Overpayment Recovery Unit, repaying sponsorship debt was voluntary. The unit has never written off a sponsorship debt. The court heard that there were 7,500 sponsored immigrants on social assistance in September 2004 – owing $70 million.

Биркин писал(а): т.е. счетец вкатить все равно могут, зависит от ситуации. но уже не автоматически... один вообще говорит чего вы прицепились, я ж не знал что спонсированные родственники на велфер соскочили

Stanislav писал(а):Панятна, кароче - навезли родственников и повесили на шею государству.

папа Карло писал(а):

Stanislav писал(а):Панятна, кароче - навезли родственников и повесили на шею государству.

навесили на шею кому? будь точен в формулировках.

Stanislav писал(а):

папа Карло писал(а):

Stanislav писал(а):Панятна, кароче - навезли родственников и повесили на шею государству.

навесили на шею кому? будь точен в формулировках.

Ну да, Королеве, вэлфер - это помощь Королевы. Но все равно из бюджета государства платится.

папа Карло писал(а):

Stanislav писал(а):

папа Карло писал(а):

Stanislav писал(а):Панятна, кароче - навезли родственников и повесили на шею государству.

навесили на шею кому? будь точен в формулировках.

Ну да, Королеве, вэлфер - это помощь Королевы. Но все равно из бюджета государства платится.

платится это из твоего кармана. твоих налогов. если расходы растут, то налоги само понимаешь тоже растут.

slava777 писал(а):Есть ли желающие обратиться в суд на правительство БС за принудительное взимание долга за спонсорство (в Онтарио люди выиграли такое дело) пожалуйста напишите на e-mail:oxana_krylova@yahoo.com