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japan nationwide land prices

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 11:33
oblom
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Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 11:45
Gatchinskiy
... ну и? ... собрался в Japan? ... может лучше московский real estate trends проанализировать ... :wink:

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 11:49
oblom
нее, я подожду когда будет - better sell before it's too late

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 11:55
Gatchinskiy
oblom писал(а):нее, я подожду когда будет - better sell before it's too late
... лет через 20-30 на мой взгляд такая ситуация может произойти на опеределенных сегментах рынка в Ване ... она обычно случается в условиях экономического кризиса, когда уже никому не до покупок, работу бы сохранить в тот момент ...

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 11:57
elena S.
Вот я все думаю- почему,oblom ?
Почему вам так "есть дело" до этого? :roll:

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 11:57
oblom
I bought an $850,000 a year ago on a little less than a quarter acre of land and with barely 2000 sq ft. under air. I made the "wise" choice to purchase it with no money down! This home was just on the threshold of my affordability...even with the wife working. Oh did I mention I have an ARM mortgagte...so now my payments are going up up up! S@@@...we are paying more for the same house...but not building any more equity! This sucks! Then the wife comes home after just sending the daughter to the orthodontist to get her teeth fixed, and declares ..."Tom, did you see that the Klevelands just put their house up for sale?" "No, I din't, I thought they really loved the area"...so with a little digging, I find that they are asking $800,000 for their home...and it is just about the equivalent to ours. Then your mind races...what is going on? Then you realize 3 months latter that their house is still up for sale, with a neon lights above the realtor sign, that says REDUCED (to $750,000)...not only that, but there are now 20 other for sale signs up in your neighborhood...THAT IS WHEN THE SHOCKING REALITY SETS IN...you will never get that $850,000 out of your house, and all the interest you have been paying is just that...a fart in the wind...and sallys orthodontist bills are pilling up, and our credit card is maxed from all the new furnishings we decorated our $850K home with...not to mention that there are rumors at work, that the company is sending more jobs to India, to save a buck, and you panic. Now I am staring aimlessly into my newly adjusted mortgage bill thinking, "HOW THE F@@@ DID I GET MYSELF INTO THIS". So I will sell my useless home at a loss..upside down and all, move to a region with cheaper homes, maybe a "fixer upper" take a lower paying job with a commute and sell the sports car and the boat, so I can with a clear conscience look at little Sally with a mouth full of wires and crooked teeth and smile, all the while thinking, ok, now how the f@@@ am I going to pay for her college! I was one f@@@@@@@ idiot...I hope no one besides my wife ever finds out. This has just about destroyed my marriage. Oh, one more thing. Did I mention I bought another home in here as an investment flip that we closed on four months ago. I can’t sell it for what I paid. I can’t even find a renter. I haven’t had a showing in more than 2 weeks.

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 12:00
oblom
Почему вам так "есть дело" до этого?
спортивный интерес

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 12:02
Gatchinskiy
oblom писал(а):
I bought an $850,000 a year ago on a little less than a quarter acre of land and with barely 2000 sq ft. under air. I made the "wise" choice to purchase it with no money down! This home was just on the threshold of my affordability...even with the wife working. Oh did I mention I have an ARM mortgagte...so now my payments are going up up up! S@@@...we are paying more for the same house...but not building any more equity! This sucks! Then the wife comes home after just sending the daughter to the orthodontist to get her teeth fixed, and declares ..."Tom, did you see that the Klevelands just put their house up for sale?" "No, I din't, I thought they really loved the area"...so with a little digging, I find that they are asking $800,000 for their home...and it is just about the equivalent to ours. Then your mind races...what is going on? Then you realize 3 months latter that their house is still up for sale, with a neon lights above the realtor sign, that says REDUCED (to $750,000)...not only that, but there are now 20 other for sale signs up in your neighborhood...THAT IS WHEN THE SHOCKING REALITY SETS IN...you will never get that $850,000 out of your house, and all the interest you have been paying is just that...a fart in the wind...and sallys orthodontist bills are pilling up, and our credit card is maxed from all the new furnishings we decorated our $850K home with...not to mention that there are rumors at work, that the company is sending more jobs to India, to save a buck, and you panic. Now I am staring aimlessly into my newly adjusted mortgage bill thinking, "HOW THE F@@@ DID I GET MYSELF INTO THIS". So I will sell my useless home at a loss..upside down and all, move to a region with cheaper homes, maybe a "fixer upper" take a lower paying job with a commute and sell the sports car and the boat, so I can with a clear conscience look at little Sally with a mouth full of wires and crooked teeth and smile, all the while thinking, ok, now how the f@@@ am I going to pay for her college! I was one f@@@@@@@ idiot...I hope no one besides my wife ever finds out. This has just about destroyed my marriage. Oh, one more thing. Did I mention I bought another home in here as an investment flip that we closed on four months ago. I can’t sell it for what I paid. I can’t even find a renter. I haven’t had a showing in more than 2 weeks.
... дык, где ты таких идиотов находишь, которые покупают за 850К без даунпеймента и без have no idea что такое real estate? ... лучше бы пример Дональда Трампа раскрыл ... :wink:

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 12:04
oblom
не поверишь, их - ТЫСЯЧИ!!! и даунпеймент в этом примере не причем ( если бы он был, то он все равно бы был потерян), а трамп - это плохой пример.....его дела не в лучшей форме

wall street journal:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB ... l?mod=mktw


это я так домовладельцев пугаю - БУУУУ-БУУУУУ

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 12:33
svt
А по этому поводу что народ думает? В Ванкувере то же происходит или еще не докатилась волна?
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 12:45
Gatchinskiy
svt писал(а):А по этому поводу что народ думает? В Ванкувере то же происходит или еще не докатилась волна?
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories
... что-то новое, за дом стоимостью 337К таксы $6500? :roll: ... хотя наверное возможно там земли вокруг пару гектаров ... так знаю, у кого знакомых дома в Ване платят в среднем $1200-2000 в год ... а чудес не бывает, ели поднимут проперти таксы то автоматически поднимется и рент (который для кого-то является собственностью) ...

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 13:13
elena S.
вчера как раз это в новостях видела,
Я думаю что нас тоже накроет,ассест валью в этом году прыгнуло как никогда,правда мы подали протест и отбили 18 штук,но все равно высоко.За этот год таксы еще не пришли-в прошлом было 3600 минус компенсация.Увидим :roll: ,но как минимум 4000 ожидаем :cry:

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 13:22
oblom
рент (который для кого-то является собственностью)

это как?

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 13:30
Gatchinskiy
oblom писал(а):
рент (который для кого-то является собственностью)

это как?
... я имел в виду, что рентовый дом (apartment, apartment building, highrise etc) является собственностью кого-то и он также платит property tax на эту собственность, а те кто рентует выплачивают за него моргидж (той или иной долей) ... и таким образом при увеличении property tax он вынужден будет поднять рент чтобы покрыть эти расходы ...

Добавлено: 14 апр 2006, 16:29
ajkj3em
oblom писал(а):нее, я подожду когда будет - better sell before it's too late
а олимпиада как вписывается ?