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To Inc. or not to Ink. - That is the question!!
Добавлено: 22 май 2006, 15:56
Artvan
Вопрос даже не в том, что стоит (ударение на первый слог

) или нет с точки зрения списания налогов и divedents, сколько в том насколько это сложно и можно ли осилить all the paperwork все самому без $$$ адвоката?!
Из опыта сколько стоит в год содержать корп.?!?
From what I understand If your business fetches less then around 30 grand per year you do not have to register it!?
thanks for any info
P.S. + i googled

Re: To Inc. or not to Ink. - That is the question!!
Добавлено: 22 май 2006, 16:16
Mr. Trump
Вопрос даже не в том, что стоит (ударение на первый слог

) или нет с точки зрения списания налогов и divedents, сколько в том насколько это сложно и можно ли осилить all the paperwork все самому без $$$ адвоката?!
"divedents" Heh?
Зарегистрировать корпорацию можно самому, уложившись в районе 400 долларов, впрочем, так же как и самому вести бухучет и подавать декларации.
Из опыта сколько стоит в год содержать корп.?!?
Зависит от сложности бизнеса, количества работников и желания тратить на бухучет свое собственное время. Вопрос из серии - если я куплю машину, то сколько буду тратить на бензин?
From what I understand If your business fetches less then around 30 grand per year you do not have to register it!?
Если быть точнее, то меньше $30,000 in a single calendar quarter or in four consecutive calendar quarters
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tax/business/t ... enu-e.html
Вот еще полезные ссылки вдогонку.
Общая информация по открытию/ведению бизнеса с ссылками по провинциям.
http://canadabusiness.gc.ca/gol/cbec/si ... 00328.html
Все самое неодбходимое для регистрации в British Columbia
http://www.smallbusinessbc.ca/
То же по федеральному инкорпорированию.
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet ... 1914e.html
Много полезной информации по большинству аспектов (регистрация, налоги, импорт -экспорт и т.д.)
http://canadabusiness.gc.ca/gol/cbec/si ... index.html
Ссылки на провинциальные правительсвенные сайты.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tax/business/prov_links-e.html
Guide for Canadian Small Businesses от Revenue Canada - самая необходимая информация по налогам (изучите его обязательно)
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/rc4070/rc4070-e.html
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Добавлено: 23 май 2006, 00:06
Artvan
Mr. Trump,
Excellent job, Thank you,
A bit overwhelming though – too much information to digest

– and as you probably figured it out yourself - there are lots of ambiguity

and everything is not so straight

forward…
SO, Last but not least can you may be recommend a good accountant who can check that those forms are filled correctly!?
Cheers,
Добавлено: 23 май 2006, 09:17
Mr. Trump
Artvan писал(а):Mr. Trump,
Excellent job, Thank you,
A bit overwhelming though – too much information to digest

– and as you probably figured it out yourself - there are lots of ambiguity

and everything is not so straight

forward…
SO, Last but not least can you may be recommend a good accountant who can check that those forms are filled correctly!?
Cheers,
Frankly speaking, I don’t find this information ambiguous. The registration process is nothing extraordinary - just follow the instructions and fill in the blanks. The accounting and income tax filing heavily depend on your business’s nature and complications. If you position your business as an incorporated consultant, in most cases you can handle the paperwork yourself. Unfortunately all good accountants I know don’t work in public practice so I can’t give you any referrals. A piece of advise regarding the accounting issues– read this guides carefully
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/rc4070/rc4070-e.html and
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4002/t4002-e.html to get a list of questions you’d like to clarify; then go to at least a couple of accountants and compare their recommendations. If they don’t agree on some issues, find a third accountant’s opinion. Everybody makes mistakes and nobody cares about your business more than yourself
Добавлено: 23 май 2006, 09:19
ajkj3em
wow. всё на импортном языке. бывает же такое
Добавлено: 23 май 2006, 09:27
Mr. Trump
ajkj2em писал(а):wow. всё на импортном языке. бывает же такое
[trn]Nu dyk prihoditsja otvechat' na tom jazyke, na kotorom sprosili. [/trn]
Добавлено: 25 май 2006, 19:00
oblom
ага, пишите помедленние....я конспектирую
Добавлено: 25 май 2006, 20:01
Stanislav
симон писал(а):Mr. Trump, не могли бы вы кратко изложить преимущества списания затрат с налогооблагаемой базы корпорации перед sole proprietorship?
Была же ведь ссылка уже:
- Another major advantage for a profitable incorporated small business is the income tax advantage. A Canadian controlled private corporation, or CCPC, pays a much lower rate of tax on the first $250,000 of active business income than would be paid by an unincorporated business.
http://www.taxtips.ca/small_business_in ... ncorporate
И конспектировать не надо....

Добавлено: 25 май 2006, 20:35
Газонокосильщик
"Любите книжку-источник знаний" кто сказал не помню.
Книжка называется Incorporation and Business Guide for British Columbia
Смотри в Офисе Депо или Стаплерсе
Добавлено: 26 май 2006, 14:26
Artvan
Mr. Trump,
Thank you, for taking your time – your info is certainly appreciated . I guess once you ‘ve done it especially for a couple of years, It becomes very straight forward…
Mr. Trump
The accounting and income tax filing heavily depend on your business’s nature and complications. If you position your business as an incorporated consultant, in most cases you can handle the paperwork yourself.
You are right-this is going to be the nature of my business consulting various companies on their product – "simple" on my end. You surprised when you said that all the accounting things I can do myself – so far I called a few ‘ Russian” accountant they charge 200-500$ also called the “recommended” guy from Hedden Chong Chartered Accountants he charges 1200 and up!
So do you realy do taxes and all the legal yourself!?
Добавлено: 26 май 2006, 19:15
Olesja
Artvan писал(а):Mr. Trump,
Thank you, for taking your time – your info is certainly appreciated . I guess once you ‘ve done it especially for a couple of years, It becomes very straight forward…
Mr. Trump
The accounting and income tax filing heavily depend on your business’s nature and complications. If you position your business as an incorporated consultant, in most cases you can handle the paperwork yourself.
You are right-this is going to be the nature of my business consulting various companies on their product – "simple" on my end. You surprised when you said that all the accounting things I can do myself – so far I called a few ‘ Russian” accountant they charge 200-500$ also called the “recommended” guy from Hedden Chong Chartered Accountants he charges 1200 and up!
So do you realy do taxes and all the legal yourself!?
скупой платит дважды. 200 каксов сэкономишь на булгахтере - тысячи переплатишь ревнивой от незнания глубины вопроса про куда и сколько списать.
Добавлено: 27 май 2006, 02:47
Artvan
Thank you, Olesja,
200 каксов сэкономишь на булгахтере - тысячи переплатишь ревнивой от незнания глубины вопроса про куда и сколько списать.
Agreed 100%
So, from experience from what income it starts to make sense to get an Inc instead of sole!?
Добавлено: 29 май 2006, 09:13
Mr. Trump
Stanislav писал(а): on the first $250,000 of active business income
It's actually $300,000. Incorporated individuals have to be very cautious with maintaining their status. The major problem is related to the certain limitations imposed by CRA to the individuals trying to reduce their taxes through incorporating their businesses. The Personal Service businesses (incorporated employees) don’t qualify for Small Business Deduction (
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4012 ... 724_196765). The number of allowed business expenses for personal service coporporations is also significantly restricted comparing to regular businesses.
Добавлено: 29 май 2006, 11:17
Mr. Trump
Olesja писал(а): скупой платит дважды. 200 каксов сэкономишь на булгахтере - тысячи переплатишь ревнивой от незнания глубины вопроса про куда и сколько списать.
Accounting and taxes for an incorporated contractor are not so really different from the accounting/taxes for a sole proprietor. So I personally don’t think there are enough complications regarding “глубины вопроса про куда и сколько списать“ to save thousands in taxes. Sure it’s up to the business owner to decide whether to hire an accountant and how much to pay for the professional services. Be aware that these “200 bucks accountants” are not responsible for their errors and mistakes. Don’t forget that an incorporated employee/contractor is usually a business owner and a director of the corporation at the same time– so there is no limited liability. As I mentioned before- nobody really cares about your personal stuff more than yourself. So be careful with these cheap “accountants” - if you made up your mind to hire one of them - always question their recommendations personally and obtain a third party opinion on all critical issues (such as the accounting policies and tax strategies)