Про Израиль - 2

alya · Сообщение **alya** » 26 май 2007, 00:24

А что кто-то уже обращался или писал ваши имена/должности с пробелами?
Не пугайте меня

А вообще-то:
Вы чертовски самонадеянны, однако!

CdR · Сообщение **CdR** » 26 май 2007, 00:26

alya писал(а):Вы чертовски самонадеянны, однако!

Так задумано.

Stanislav · Сообщение **Stanislav** » 26 май 2007, 07:23

CdR писал(а):
alya писал(а):Так вот, у некоторых считается, что полным именем величать или по должности называть - слишком фамильярно.
Мдяааа. А верх уважения будет просто "пустая строка"?

Именно так!!! А в переводе на русский язык это звучит так: "Не упоминай имя Господа Твоего понапрасну!"

Victoria · Сообщение **Victoria** » 26 май 2007, 08:48

Скажите, чем, чем можно объяснить, что арабские страны и организации на -от- рез отказываются от простой вещи - признания права государства Израиль на СУЩЕСТВОВАНИЕ? НАОТРЕЗ!

- What is Jerusalem worth?
- Nothing... Everything!

alya · Сообщение **alya** » 26 май 2007, 09:11

Victoria,
О чем это вы?
Поясните мне пжлст, а то не совсем понятно.

Victoria · Сообщение **Victoria** » 26 май 2007, 09:16

Так, просто вспомнилось...

alya · Сообщение **alya** » 26 май 2007, 09:21

Victoria писал(а):Так, просто вспомнилось...

?????

aldep · Сообщение **aldep** » 26 май 2007, 09:25

alya писал(а):я со временем узнала, что религия в жизни и сознании большинства людей занимает немаловажное место.
Так вот, у некоторых считается, что полным именем величать или по должности называть - слишком фамильярно.

Вы думаете, бог обидется?

Victoria · Сообщение **Victoria** » 26 май 2007, 09:29

alya писал(а): ?????

!!!!!

ingvar · Сообщение **ingvar** » 26 май 2007, 22:34

Oh George! Oh George!
That Texas education must have fucked you up when you were very small
..................................................................
America, America, please hear us when we call
You got hip-hop, be-bop, hustle and bustle
You got Atticus Finch
You got Jane Russell
You got freedom of speech
You got great beaches, wildernesses and malls
Don't let the might, the Christian right, fuck it all up
For you and the rest of the world

Ибн-Буш

Daning · Сообщение **Daning** » 27 май 2007, 00:43

Спасибо, ingvar. Это сильнее тысячи доказательств. Весь текст:

ROGER WATERS “Leaving Beirut”
When I was 17 my mother, bless her heart, fulfilled my summer dream
She handed me the keys to the car
We motored down to Paris, fuelled with Dexedrine and booze
Got bust in Antibes by the cops
And fleeced in Naples by the wops
But everyone was kind to us, we were the English dudes
Our dads had helped them win the war
When we all knew what we were fighting for
But now an Englishman abroad is just a US stooge
The bulldog is a poodle snapping round the scoundrel's last refuge

Are these the people that we should bomb
Are we so sure they mean us harm
Is this our pleasure, punishment or crime
Is this a mountain that we really want to climb
The road is hard, hard and long
Put down that two by four
This man would never turn you from his door
Oh George! Oh George!
That Texas education must have fucked you up when you were very small

Is gentleness too much for us
Should gentleness be filed along with empathy
We feel for someone else's child
Every time a smart bomb does its sums and gets it wrong
Someone else's child dies and equities in defence rise
America, America, please hear us when we call
You got hip-hop, be-bop, hustle and bustle
You got Atticus Finch
You got Jane Russell
You got freedom of speech
You got great beaches, wildernesses and malls
Don't let the might, the Christian right, fuck it all up
For you and the rest of the world

Not in my name, Tony, you great war leader you
Terror is still terror, whosoever gets to frame the rules
History's not written by the vanquished or the damned
Now we are Genghis Khan, Lucretia Borghia, Son of Sam
In 1961 they took this child into their home
I wonder what became of them
In the cauldron that was Lebanon
If I could find them now, could I make amends?
How does the story end?...

Вот, нашел там в комментах:

i couldn't agree more. some of the folks writing here are apparently not well-read, or have limited understanding of how the world works. IMO, the bush doctrine comes closer to being fascism than the Islamic authorities. i speak about how the rest of the world sees us.

Fascists don't look at themselves. That's why we need to make it very clear why being an aggressive fascist doesn't pay

Think this is what Jonh Lennon would do if he was alive by now

it s wonderful!!!the music the lyrics!!!this tour!!my best show ever!!!end off course fuck bush,the puppet in capitalism s hands and the rich american sionist motherfuckers!!!let the world be free in peace!!!

Daning · Сообщение **Daning** » 27 май 2007, 00:46

ROGER WATERS “To Kill The Child”:
The child lay
In the starlit night
Safe in the glow of his Donald Duck light
How strange to choose to take a life
How strange to choose to kill a child
Hoover, Blaupunkt, Nissan Jeep
Nike, Addidas, Lacoste and cheaper brands
Cadillac, Amtrak, gasoline, diesel
Our standard of living, could this be a reason
That we would choose to kill the child
That we would choose to kill the child

Allah, Jehovah, Buddah, Christ
Confucius and Kali and reds, beans and rice
Goujons of sole, ris de veau, ham hocks
Lox bagels and bones and commandments in stone
The Bible, Koran, Shinto, Islam
Prosciutto, risotto, falafel and ham
Is it dogma, doughnuts, ridicule faith
Fear of the dark, or shame or disgrace
That we would choose to kill the child
That we would choose to kill the child

It's cold in the desert
And the space is too big
The rope is too short
And the walls are too thick
I will show you no weakness
I will mock you in song
Berate and deride you
Belittle and chide you
Beat you with sticks
And bulldoze your home
You can watch my triumphant procession to Rome
Best seat in the house
Up there on the cross
Is it anger or envy, profit or loss
That we would choose to kill the child
That we would choose to kill the child

Take this child and hold him closely
Keep him safe from the holy reign of terror
Take this child hold him closely
Take this child to the moral high ground
Where he can look down on the bigots and bully boys
Slugging it out in the yard

Mark2007 · Сообщение **Mark2007** » 27 май 2007, 17:48

война это естественная штука в человечестве, её не в этом веку придумали. Если война должна быть то я за войну. Ща меня закидают камнями

Stanislav · Сообщение **Stanislav** » 27 май 2007, 19:41

Mark2007 писал(а):война это естественная штука в человечестве, её не в этом веку придумали. Если война должна быть то я за войну. Ща меня закидают камнями

Вовсе не естесственная - никто в природе не убивает себе подобных, никто в природе не убивает, если не будет это есть - это характерно только для человека.

(Alex) · Сообщение **(Alex)** » 27 май 2007, 20:54

то животные, а человек - существо высоко-духовное...