Нет, лампа мне не очень нравится. Или я не слышал всеядной. А к проводам я отношусь сдержанно.ламповые усилители и провода из бескислородной меди?
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сааб не нравится _совсем_..... бмв не нравится после инфинити _совсем_ тоже. хотя тут я слукавил... мне _очень_ нравится новая семерка (и только она из ряда бимеров).... но к сожалению дерева на котором растут бабки у меня пока нетvinni_puh писал(а):BMW?пока-же я покупаю то, на чем хочется ездить
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[trn]Pochemu Kamri tot-zhe Leksus tolko sboku? Dvigatel pohoz? V ostalnom vrode raznye sovershenno modeli, ne razdeljajishie ne platformy, ni odnoj kuzovnoj paneli.
Toyota Windom i sobstvenno Kamri.
Hotja v mestnyh avto zhurnalah napravo i nalove podobnye utvezhdenija vstrechajutsja... no chego oni stojat naverno vse uzeh davno nauchilis?[/trn]
Toyota Windom i sobstvenno Kamri.
Hotja v mestnyh avto zhurnalah napravo i nalove podobnye utvezhdenija vstrechajutsja... no chego oni stojat naverno vse uzeh davno nauchilis?[/trn]
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AK писал(а):[trn]Pochemu Kamri tot-zhe Leksus tolko sboku? Dvigatel pohoz? V ostalnom vrode raznye sovershenno modeli, ne razdeljajishie ne platformy, ni odnoj kuzovnoj paneli...
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Одна и таже платформа и двигатель как пишут довольно серьезные источники ...'As always, the ES 300 is based on the Toyota Camry, which also underwent a major redesign for 2002. But the new ES 300 finally feels significantly different from the Camry, although it shares the Camry platform and has a carryover V6 that is a modified Camry engine...'
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/jedli ... l=ES%20330
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[trn]Vot pro eti sereznye istochniki ja i govoril... Ne znaju kak objasnit prvilnee, no proshe samomu posmotret i sravnit. Odna sobrana v USA, drugaja prakticheski prjamoj analog (s melkimi uproshenijami) mashini vnutrennego rynka - Vindom. Vzaimozamenijaemyh detalej prakticheski net (skazhem ne bolshe chem mezhdu Kamri i Korolloj).
To chto pishut avtoritetnye (na severoamerikanskom rynke) izdania - je ne znaju kto ih vserjez vosrpinimaet, eto eshe ne samyh bolshoj perl - i kstati rasrpostrannennij stereotip v presse sdes.
Kstati, dlja teh kto ne probobal - mashiny po ezdi i upravljaemosti ne pohozhi nikak. V predelah naskolko odin peredneprovodnyj semejnyj sedan pohoz/nepohoz na drugoj.
No sobstvenno originalnyj vopros byl pro Accord
Prosto ja skazal chto lichno vjzal by ES300.[/trn]
To chto pishut avtoritetnye (na severoamerikanskom rynke) izdania - je ne znaju kto ih vserjez vosrpinimaet, eto eshe ne samyh bolshoj perl - i kstati rasrpostrannennij stereotip v presse sdes.
Kstati, dlja teh kto ne probobal - mashiny po ezdi i upravljaemosti ne pohozhi nikak. V predelah naskolko odin peredneprovodnyj semejnyj sedan pohoz/nepohoz na drugoj.
No sobstvenno originalnyj vopros byl pro Accord
Prosto ja skazal chto lichno vjzal by ES300.[/trn]-
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Lexus ES300 / Toyota Windom
I want to write more about the new ES300, but I can't. Since the car is still derived directly from the mainstream Camry, it is as technically uninteresting as its 2 predecessors. How uninteresting ? first of all, it is the last car in the world riding on MacPherson struts at each corner while dare to declare itself as a prestige car. For the cheap Camry, this is forgivable, but for Lexus it sounds like a joke. Well, many BMW uses struts up front and Alfa 156 uses them at rear axle, but at both front and rear ? ES300's chassis is the last breed of Jurassic dinosaur.
It seems that most improvements were done to enhance refinement and quietness, most notably is by strengthening chassis, upgrading engine-mount and increasing sound-deadening materials. In this respect, the ES300 still lives up to Lexus' standard, but no longer feels as outstanding as its predecessor a few years ago. That said, competitors have closed the gap or some even surpassed it. In terms of ride quality, the old suspension shows its limit here, offering a floaty ride over undulation. Optional 4-stage adaptive damping actually improves ride and injects more driver appeal at the stiffest setting, but the latter is just relative to the standard car. When come to handling, ES' shortness becomes clear: it rolls, pitches and understeers (remember, it is front-drive). It feels nose-heavy. Its steering is light and lack of feedback. Facing 3-series, C-class, A4 and X-Type, it is hopelessly uninspiring and hopelessly slow on twisty roads.
Slow is also because of an old engine. The compulsory 3.0 V6 (with VVT-i, unlike Camry) is simply unchanged from the old one, producing the same 210hp and 220 lbft. It is as smooth and quiet as before, but neither charismatic nor characterful. Though mating to a new 5-speed automatic instead of 4, the increased weight of 30kg cancel any performance gain. The 5-speeder isn't world-class, blame to sluggish downshift response. And where is Tiptronic mode ? forget it. Lazy drivers don't need that. Keen drivers don't drive the ES.
Perhaps the new exterior styling can score back some points ? unlike its predecessor, it was styled in Japan instead of California, but it has an aircraft-style profile and radical nose to make you believe it was done in the USA. However, the organic grilles and headlights are unlikely to withstand the test of time, and they devoid of any sense of prestige. The last ES300 feels more expensive.
Inside is much better. There is more space than its RWD or 4WD rivals. Light-color soft leather contributes to a warm-feeling environment. Instruments are clear and economical, but the plastics used is not first-class.
Among Lexus' line-up, this one is the most non-Lexus. It does not feel as prestige as LS, nor as exciting to drive as IS and GS. After all, it is still a pseudo prestige car built on Camry. Small investment doesn't worth good sales.
I want to write more about the new ES300, but I can't. Since the car is still derived directly from the mainstream Camry, it is as technically uninteresting as its 2 predecessors. How uninteresting ? first of all, it is the last car in the world riding on MacPherson struts at each corner while dare to declare itself as a prestige car. For the cheap Camry, this is forgivable, but for Lexus it sounds like a joke. Well, many BMW uses struts up front and Alfa 156 uses them at rear axle, but at both front and rear ? ES300's chassis is the last breed of Jurassic dinosaur.
It seems that most improvements were done to enhance refinement and quietness, most notably is by strengthening chassis, upgrading engine-mount and increasing sound-deadening materials. In this respect, the ES300 still lives up to Lexus' standard, but no longer feels as outstanding as its predecessor a few years ago. That said, competitors have closed the gap or some even surpassed it. In terms of ride quality, the old suspension shows its limit here, offering a floaty ride over undulation. Optional 4-stage adaptive damping actually improves ride and injects more driver appeal at the stiffest setting, but the latter is just relative to the standard car. When come to handling, ES' shortness becomes clear: it rolls, pitches and understeers (remember, it is front-drive). It feels nose-heavy. Its steering is light and lack of feedback. Facing 3-series, C-class, A4 and X-Type, it is hopelessly uninspiring and hopelessly slow on twisty roads.
Slow is also because of an old engine. The compulsory 3.0 V6 (with VVT-i, unlike Camry) is simply unchanged from the old one, producing the same 210hp and 220 lbft. It is as smooth and quiet as before, but neither charismatic nor characterful. Though mating to a new 5-speed automatic instead of 4, the increased weight of 30kg cancel any performance gain. The 5-speeder isn't world-class, blame to sluggish downshift response. And where is Tiptronic mode ? forget it. Lazy drivers don't need that. Keen drivers don't drive the ES.
Perhaps the new exterior styling can score back some points ? unlike its predecessor, it was styled in Japan instead of California, but it has an aircraft-style profile and radical nose to make you believe it was done in the USA. However, the organic grilles and headlights are unlikely to withstand the test of time, and they devoid of any sense of prestige. The last ES300 feels more expensive.
Inside is much better. There is more space than its RWD or 4WD rivals. Light-color soft leather contributes to a warm-feeling environment. Instruments are clear and economical, but the plastics used is not first-class.
Among Lexus' line-up, this one is the most non-Lexus. It does not feel as prestige as LS, nor as exciting to drive as IS and GS. After all, it is still a pseudo prestige car built on Camry. Small investment doesn't worth good sales.
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Так как для меня 30к - это много денег, то рука не поднимется покупать неновую машину за эти деньги.infiniti g35 2003-4 <30000 cad
acura tl 2004 <30000 cad
Потому что я не знаю как к ней относились, может ее рвали на -30 непрогретой с места на 6000 оборотов. Или масло меняли как попало и на какое попало.Или вообще.
Да и те кто за машиной следит- через 2 года не меняют. Или наоброт- тот кто собирается менять через 2 года- на машину клал с прибором.