Вы вроде не у ходите с гугля..Кстати, а вы в курсе, какой налог им пришлось бы при этом заплатить?
In 2006, in the middle of one the hottest years on record for Canadian housing, then Bank of Canada Governor David Dodge sent a testy letter to his counterpart at the country’s mortgage insurer warning about lax standards fueling demand for homes. Today, Dodge has new words of caution: worry more about supply.
“It’s not very complicated: there’s a supply curve, there’s a demand curve. If you restrict that supply curve then don’t be surprised by high prices,” said Dodge, who over four decades as a public servant worked at the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. and headed both Canada’s finance department and its central bank.
While Finance Minister Bill Morneau’s recent measures to cool Canadian housing markets are only the latest in a decade-long effort to stem demand, beginning with Dodge’s letter, they have also begun to reveal something else: the federal government’s waning ability to solve the problem.
The two hottest markets at the center of concern, Toronto and Vancouver, are increasingly driven by supply constraints that federal officials can do little about. Blanket nationwide efforts to curtail demand meanwhile threaten to slow already weak markets in other parts of Canada. The bigger culprit may be local politicians’ reluctance to foster housing development, Dodge said, not availability of mortgage insurance.
“I would have thought we were getting to a point now in the mortgage insurance arrangements that are pretty, let’s call them, more or less neutral,” Dodge said in a telephone interview. “There’s lots of markets in this country where prices are not rising that rapidly.”
The most recent measures — a combination of tougher qualification rules for home buyers and proposed loss-sharing with banks — were announced early last month, and the first bits of housing data show no evidence of an immediate impact, particularly in Toronto. Benchmark housing prices — calculated by the Canadian Real Estate Association — were up 2 per cent in October in Canada’s biggest city and have gained 18 per cent over the past 12 months. In Vancouver, where prices did decline in October, prices are still up 28 per cent over the past year.
That contrasts dramatically with markets in most cities outside of lower British Columbia and the “Golden Horseshoe” around Toronto, where prices have been flat or negative.
This helps explain the cool reception Morneau has received.
The big banks, who largely endorsed the last major move in 2012, expressed concern this time. Just about everyone in the industry — from brokers to builders — are pleading for policy makers to turn their attention to supply instead of demand.
While Morneau says he was compelled to act for financial stability reasons, the supply issue hasn’t been lost on him. Finance officials tried to persuade the British Columbia and Ontario governments to take steps to increase home supply as part of a more comprehensive effort, but have so far received little interest.
New housing supply is particularly acute in Toronto, where the number of low-rise homes built in the city fell 22 per cent in 2015 from a year earlier to 12,156 units. That’s the lowest since 1995. Completions of new single-detached homes fell 18 percent to 7,871 units in 2015, the lowest since 1978.
New home completions in Vancouver have been doing better — within the average of the past 15 years — but even here remain below long-term historical levels. Including the demolition of older homes however, the Canadian Homebuilders’ Association estimates the stock of low-rises in Vancouver is actually down 20 per cent from 10 years ago.
“The statistics speak for themselves. Builders are building as much as they are allowed to build,” said Kevin Lee, chief executive of the Ottawa-based advocacy group, who thinks Morneau’s measures will be counterproductive. Federal government blanket rules “are not the way to deal with this.”
Federal officials have been tinkering with the availability of government insurance for at least 50 years, but nothing to the extent of the past decade.
The stock of low-rises in Vancouver is actually down 20 per cent from 10 years ago
Dodge was forced to respond 10 years ago to then-Finance Minister Jim Flaherty’s decision to allow the country’s mortgage insurers to cover no-money-down, 40-year amortized mortgages.
Since then, federal officials — from Dodge to his successors Mark Carney and Stephen Poloz and now Prime Minister Justin Trudeau — have agonized over the issue. Flaherty, who said privately he was embarrassed by the initial loosening step, would later reverse course and rally the tightening charge.
The net result has been a Canadian government that has become hardwired to worry about the problem — the heads of all the main regulators after all are veterans of a financial crisis that was rooted in a U.S. housing bubble.
The question is whether the pendulum has swung too far, especially as Morneau considers forcing lenders to share in losses associated with defaulted mortgages — a part of the system considered hallowed ground for the industry. After all, the 100 per cent guarantee is designed to ensure banks continue to lend even when house prices plummet, something Dodge says will happen at some point.
“It is conceivable there could be further tightening rules but I think the issue is going to come when all of a sudden one of these markets go sour and there is a desire on the part of government to encourage home ownership again,” Dodge said.
Bloomberg News
Наташа, это средняя температура по большой больнице. У нас соседи продали дом за один день даже без выхода в MLS, а наша банковская оценка, для получения мортгиджа, превысила все ожидания (в сторону увеличения). Еще раз: это не падение, а коррекция. Какое падение, когда население Ванкувера удвоится в обозримом будущем?peterburjenka писал(а):Падение началось
Average Greater Vancouver home sale price down almost 6% in October: BCREA
https://www.biv.com/article/2016/11/ave ... -down-alm/
Нормальное сезонное. Инфляция только несезонная перманентная.peterburjenka писал(а):Падение началось
Average Greater Vancouver home sale price down almost 6% in October: BCREA
https://www.biv.com/article/2016/11/ave ... -down-alm/
на 300 меньше в Калгари - это я понимаю вобще забить хоть как, чтобы квартира за зиму не разморозилась в холодный складCalgary landlords facing ‘grim’ times as almost 40% of rental properties sit empty
A quick glance at Kijiji shows the incentives landlords are willing to offer just to get somebody in their suites. “December rent free,” “Price already reduced by $300 a month,” “1 month free utilities,” the ads declare.
http://business.financialpost.com/news/ ... =31b8-53cd
С таким ценами у них должно быть нет отбоя от беженцев..на 300 меньше в Калгари - это я понимаю вобще забить хоть как, чтобы квартира за зиму не разморозилась в холодный склад
Чё они придурки туда ехать, они столько бабла за свое беженство выложили, и в калгари трюдо за ручку лично не встретит.levak писал(а):С таким ценами у них должно быть нет отбоя от беженцев..на 300 меньше в Калгари - это я понимаю вобще забить хоть как, чтобы квартира за зиму не разморозилась в холодный склад
на 300 долларов - это, наверное, на самое дешевое жилье в Калгари:levak писал(а):С таким ценами у них должно быть нет отбоя от беженцев..на 300 меньше в Калгари - это я понимаю вобще забить хоть как, чтобы квартира за зиму не разморозилась в холодный склад
Meadie писал(а):‘Will you lower our rent?’: Calgary tenants ask, and landlords oblige as residential vacancy rates surge
... “It’s definitely a 180 (degree turn) in the market here. It’s really changed,” said Mark Hawkins, who owns the rental listing website RentFaster.ca. “The tides have turned,” Hawkins said. “Now, there are a lot of landlords that aren’t even covering their expenses.” Data provided by Hawkins shows the average price for all Calgary properties listed on his site has plummeted from a peak of $2,137 in July 2014 to $1,426 this month — a decline of 33 per cent, or $711.
Насколько я помню, в те времена, когда 10-year Treasury note в последний раз стоили 6%, наши моргиджи выдавали приблизительно под 8% годовых. Добавлю, что с такими процентными ставками платежи по типичному моргиджу будут процентов на 80 больше платежей по сегодняшним ставкам.Jeffrey Gundlach, chief executive officer of DoubleLine Capital, sees a rise in bond yields that could lift the yield on the 10-year Treasury note to 6% in the next four or five years.Trump’s pro-business agenda is “unfriendly” to bonds, Gundlach says, as it could to lead to stronger economic growth and renewed inflation. Gundlach expects President-elect Trump to “amp up the deficit” to pay for infrastructure projects and other programs.
That could produce an inflation rate of 3% and nominal growth of 4% to 6% in gross domestic product, said Gundlach, who oversees more than $106 billion in assets at Los Angeles-based DoubleLine. “If nominal GDP pushes toward 4%, 5%, or even 6%, there is no way you are going to get bond yields to stay below 2%,” he told Barron’s.
Сейчас, в среднем, процент в США на покупку недвижимости от 3.8% до 4.2%. От штата к штату, возможно, есть разница. Можно только представить, сколько домовладений в Канаде испытало бы значительные финансовые трудности уже при 4% ставки, а это - весьма реально.Meadie писал(а): Насколько я помню, в те времена, когда 10-year Treasury note в последний раз стоили 6%, наши моргиджи выдавали приблизительно под 8% годовых. Добавлю, что с такими процентными ставками платежи по типичному моргиджу будут процентов на 80 больше платежей по сегодняшним ставкам.
При этом, в отличие от штатов, где большинство моргиджей берется под фиксированный на 30 лет процент, нашим домовладельцем придется свои моргиджи продлевать в конце первого президентского срока Трампа.
это точно. мой первый мортгидж был в среднем под 4.87% на пять лет, так до сих пор испытываю значительные финансовые трудности :)Ringo писал(а):Можно только представить, сколько домовладений в Канаде испытало бы значительные финансовые трудности уже при 4% ставки, а это - весьма реально.
А сколько стоил (если не секрет) в абсолютных цифрах ваш первый объект недвижимости и какая у вас была зарплата?Waterbyte писал(а):это точно. мой первый мортгидж был в среднем под 4.87% на пять лет, так до сих пор испытываю значительные финансовые трудностиRingo писал(а):Можно только представить, сколько домовладений в Канаде испытало бы значительные финансовые трудности уже при 4% ставки, а это - весьма реально.
Хорошо, это - секрет 
Тогда так, какое было отношение вашего месячного пэйчека к ежемесячному же платежу, учитывая внесенный вами превоначальные взнос? Еще лучше - какой процент платежи отъедали у бюджета ваше домовладения (пресловутый ratio)? пардон, не понял ни первого, ни второго вопроса. можно спросить то же самое, но на человеческом языке, а не на газетном?Ringo писал(а):Тогда так, какое было отношение вашего месячного пэйчека к ежемесячному же платежу, учитывая внесенный вами превоначальные взнос? Еще лучше - какой процент платежи отъедали у бюджета ваше домовладения (пресловутый ratio)?
Сколько ежемесячный (или bi-weekly) платеж отъедал от ежемесячного же (в перечете с bi-weekly) net-дохода всего вашего хаузхолда (или только вашей зряплаты, если вы один добытчик были)?Waterbyte писал(а):пардон, не понял ни первого, ни второго вопроса. можно спросить то же самое, но на человеческом языке, а не на газетном?