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Вопрос о машинах.
Приходит время выкинуть 1.6EL и купить что получше. Небольшое. Но что бы fun to drive. И не дорогое сильно. Желательно с ручной коробкой. Потому как 90% времени машина будет ездить с и на работу по 400-401-DVP.
Как варианты рассмотрел:
Acura RSX (2003-2004)
Acura TSX (2004)
Audi A4 Quattro (2002-2003)
VW Jetta (2003-2004)
VW Golf (2003-2004)
Subaru Impreza Sedan (2004-2005)
Subaru Legacy GT Sedan (2003-2004)
Toyota Celica (2003-2004)
Еще думал (исключив fun to drive) о
Subaru Forester (2003-2004)
Honda CR-V (2003-2004)
Что еще народ посоветует ???
Как варианты рассмотрел:
Acura RSX (2003-2004)
Acura TSX (2004)
Audi A4 Quattro (2002-2003)
VW Jetta (2003-2004)
VW Golf (2003-2004)
Subaru Impreza Sedan (2004-2005)
Subaru Legacy GT Sedan (2003-2004)
Toyota Celica (2003-2004)
Еще думал (исключив fun to drive) о
Subaru Forester (2003-2004)
Honda CR-V (2003-2004)
Что еще народ посоветует ???
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Re: Вопрос о машинах.
Не вижу в списках Saab 9-3PeterK писал(а): Как варианты рассмотрел:
Acura RSX (2003-2004)
Acura TSX (2004)
Audi A4 Quattro (2002-2003)
VW Jetta (2003-2004)
VW Golf (2003-2004)
Subaru Impreza Sedan (2004-2005)
Subaru Legacy GT Sedan (2003-2004)
Toyota Celica (2003-2004)
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Мне лично еше понравилас Волво Ц30.
Hо фун то драйв я бы не ожидал ни от одной из етих машин. Nе то что пижоню, просто не та категория. Я бы сказал толерабл то драйв.
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Hо фун то драйв я бы не ожидал ни от одной из етих машин. Nе то что пижоню, просто не та категория. Я бы сказал толерабл то драйв.
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Последний раз редактировалось AK 18 мар 2007, 18:02, всего редактировалось 1 раз.
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Re: Вопрос о машинах.
я бы еще поглядел в сторону Nissan X-trailPeterK писал(а): Subaru Forester (2003-2004)
Honda CR-V (2003-2004)
Что еще народ посоветует ???

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Re: Вопрос о машинах.
Golf GTI VR6 .. вто если хочетcя fun to drive
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Re: Вопрос о машинах.
по многочисленны отзывам фан ту драйв это Мини Купер. И писали и знакомые говорили, самому как то не пришлось еще попробоватьajkj3em писал(а):Golf GTI VR6 .. вто если хочетcя fun to drive

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Re: Вопрос о машинах.
кстати даVims писал(а):по многочисленны отзывам фан ту драйв это Мини Купер. И писали и знакомые говорили, самому как то не пришлось еще попробоватьajkj3em писал(а):Golf GTI VR6 .. вто если хочетcя fun to drive

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Re: Вопрос о машинах.
там в дизельном голфе и джетте что то придумали новое по моему в 2003 году, то ли в 2004PeterK писал(а):Приходит время выкинуть 1.6EL и купить что получше. Небольшое. Но что бы fun to drive. И не дорогое сильно. Желательно с ручной коробкой. Потому как 90% времени машина будет ездить с и на работу по 400-401-DVP.
VW Golf (2003-2004)
народ посоветует ???
в общем этот движок никто не советует брать
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Re: Вопрос о машинах.
памп дюз там придумали.дядя Вова писал(а):там в дизельном голфе и джетте что то придумали новое по моему в 2003 году, то ли в 2004PeterK писал(а):Приходит время выкинуть 1.6EL и купить что получше. Небольшое. Но что бы fun to drive. И не дорогое сильно. Желательно с ручной коробкой. Потому как 90% времени машина будет ездить с и на работу по 400-401-DVP.
VW Golf (2003-2004)
народ посоветует ???
в общем этот движок никто не советует брать
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Re: Вопрос о машинах.
И чем это нехорошо?Ted писал(а):памп дюз там придумали.дядя Вова писал(а):там в дизельном голфе и джетте что то придумали новое по моему в 2003 году, то ли в 2004PeterK писал(а):Приходит время выкинуть 1.6EL и купить что получше. Небольшое. Но что бы fun to drive. И не дорогое сильно. Желательно с ручной коробкой. Потому как 90% времени машина будет ездить с и на работу по 400-401-DVP.
VW Golf (2003-2004)
народ посоветует ???
в общем этот движок никто не советует брать
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Types of TDI Engines - Various cars use different engines which are generally described below. It should be noted that this document primarily focuses on the 90hp 4-cylinder engines, as these are the most common, and are the only ones seen in North America.
1.2 litre 3-cylinder 61hp - This engine is used in the "3-litre" (referring to fuel consumption of 3 litres per 100 km) versions of the VW Lupo, Seat Arosa, Audi A2, sold in Europe. The injection system uses the "pump-nozzle" or PD system, and the turbocharger is a variable-vane type.
1.4 litre 3-cylinder 75hp - Used in various Polo-based models sold in Europe. The injection system uses the "pump-nozzle" system, and the turbocharger is a variable-vane type.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 90hp (A3 type) - used in various models sold until approximately 1998 in Europe and North America. Within this document we will call this the A3 engine even though it was also used in other models, because the most popular cars sold with this engine were the A3-chassis Golf, Jetta, and Vento sold from 1994 until early 1999. Not all model years were available in all markets, and this engine was replaced by the newer type (here called the A4 type) gradually over a period of years. Other models sold with this engine include the B4 Passat (1995 - 1997), VW Sharan minivan, and various Audi models.
The injection system uses a distributor-type pump. On cars with transverse engines, the A3 engine can be distinguished from the later type by the spin-on oil filter on the front of the engine facing down at an angle, the air filter housing is at the right front corner of the car, and the two black plastic pipes to the intercooler lead towards the left front corner of the car. There are other differences, but these are the most easily visible.
The turbocharger is a conventional wastegate type.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 110hp (A3 type) - used on the same models as the 90hp but not available in all markets - in particular, not available in North America. Visually it is almost impossible to tell apart from the A3 90hp engine, except for the red "I" in the TDI badges used on the car in various places. The engine itself is identical to the 90hp model.
The turbocharger is a variable-vane type, and the injection system uses a distributor-type pump which looks the same as that of the 90hp model. Obviously there are differences in the ECU, and in the plumbing and controls for the turbo, since the turbo is not the same as for the 90hp model.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 90hp (A4 type) - used in various models available in Europe and North America from 1998 on, this gradually replaced the previous engine as the car models were changed. Within this document we will call this the A4 engine because the most common application is the A4-chassis Golf, Jetta, Bora, New Beetle, and various models from Seat and Skoda using the same chassis.
The injection system uses a distributor-type pump. The oil filter is a cartridge type, and sits in a vertical container on the front of the engine towards the left of the car. On cars with transverse engines, the air filter housing is at the left side of the engine compartment and the two black plastic pipes to the intercooler lead towards the right front corner - exactly the opposite of the arrangement used on the previous model.
On North American models, the turbocharger is a variable-vane type. On European models, the turbocharger is a conventional wastegate type. The North American A4 engine is essentially a Euro 110hp A4 engine but with engine controls optimized for emissions rather than performance.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 110hp (A4 type) - virtually identical in appearance and specification to the 90hp except for the engine controls; cars using this engine have a red "I" in the TDI badges. Not available in North America.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 115hp "PD" - again similar to the A4-type engine but with the "pump-nozzle" injection system. Although the peak power is only slightly more than the 110, maximum torque is much higher and the engine has lower exhaust emissions. VW intends to gradually replace the 110hp models with this engine. Not available in North America, reportedly because the exhaust emission controls used on this engine cannot be used with fuels containing greater than 50 parts per million of sulfur, whereas at this writing (1999) fuels in North America can have as much as 500 parts per million.
Models with this engine have badges with a silver "T" and red "DI".
The injection system is the "pump-nozzle" type, and the turbocharger is a variable-vane type. The lack of the injection pump mounted on the front of the engine is the obvious visual difference.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 150hp "PD" - Few details are available at this writing. Models with this engine apparently will have badges with "TDI" in all red.
2.5 litre 5-cylinder - used in various larger models available in Europe. The injection system uses a distributor-type pump.
2.5 litre V6 150 hp - used on various Audi-based models (including the VW Passat) starting in 1998. Has 4 valves per cylinder, and uses a distributor-type injection pump. The advantage of using 4 valves per cylinder for a diesel engine is not so much for better breathing, as it is to allow the injection nozzle to be located precisely in the center of the combustion chamber and oriented vertically.
2.5 litre V6 180 hp - differs from the 150 hp model only in the use of common-rail injection instead of the distributor-type pump.
3.3 litre V8 - used on the Audi A8 available in Europe.
1.2 litre 3-cylinder 61hp - This engine is used in the "3-litre" (referring to fuel consumption of 3 litres per 100 km) versions of the VW Lupo, Seat Arosa, Audi A2, sold in Europe. The injection system uses the "pump-nozzle" or PD system, and the turbocharger is a variable-vane type.
1.4 litre 3-cylinder 75hp - Used in various Polo-based models sold in Europe. The injection system uses the "pump-nozzle" system, and the turbocharger is a variable-vane type.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 90hp (A3 type) - used in various models sold until approximately 1998 in Europe and North America. Within this document we will call this the A3 engine even though it was also used in other models, because the most popular cars sold with this engine were the A3-chassis Golf, Jetta, and Vento sold from 1994 until early 1999. Not all model years were available in all markets, and this engine was replaced by the newer type (here called the A4 type) gradually over a period of years. Other models sold with this engine include the B4 Passat (1995 - 1997), VW Sharan minivan, and various Audi models.
The injection system uses a distributor-type pump. On cars with transverse engines, the A3 engine can be distinguished from the later type by the spin-on oil filter on the front of the engine facing down at an angle, the air filter housing is at the right front corner of the car, and the two black plastic pipes to the intercooler lead towards the left front corner of the car. There are other differences, but these are the most easily visible.
The turbocharger is a conventional wastegate type.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 110hp (A3 type) - used on the same models as the 90hp but not available in all markets - in particular, not available in North America. Visually it is almost impossible to tell apart from the A3 90hp engine, except for the red "I" in the TDI badges used on the car in various places. The engine itself is identical to the 90hp model.
The turbocharger is a variable-vane type, and the injection system uses a distributor-type pump which looks the same as that of the 90hp model. Obviously there are differences in the ECU, and in the plumbing and controls for the turbo, since the turbo is not the same as for the 90hp model.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 90hp (A4 type) - used in various models available in Europe and North America from 1998 on, this gradually replaced the previous engine as the car models were changed. Within this document we will call this the A4 engine because the most common application is the A4-chassis Golf, Jetta, Bora, New Beetle, and various models from Seat and Skoda using the same chassis.
The injection system uses a distributor-type pump. The oil filter is a cartridge type, and sits in a vertical container on the front of the engine towards the left of the car. On cars with transverse engines, the air filter housing is at the left side of the engine compartment and the two black plastic pipes to the intercooler lead towards the right front corner - exactly the opposite of the arrangement used on the previous model.
On North American models, the turbocharger is a variable-vane type. On European models, the turbocharger is a conventional wastegate type. The North American A4 engine is essentially a Euro 110hp A4 engine but with engine controls optimized for emissions rather than performance.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 110hp (A4 type) - virtually identical in appearance and specification to the 90hp except for the engine controls; cars using this engine have a red "I" in the TDI badges. Not available in North America.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 115hp "PD" - again similar to the A4-type engine but with the "pump-nozzle" injection system. Although the peak power is only slightly more than the 110, maximum torque is much higher and the engine has lower exhaust emissions. VW intends to gradually replace the 110hp models with this engine. Not available in North America, reportedly because the exhaust emission controls used on this engine cannot be used with fuels containing greater than 50 parts per million of sulfur, whereas at this writing (1999) fuels in North America can have as much as 500 parts per million.
Models with this engine have badges with a silver "T" and red "DI".
The injection system is the "pump-nozzle" type, and the turbocharger is a variable-vane type. The lack of the injection pump mounted on the front of the engine is the obvious visual difference.
1.9 litre 4-cylinder 150hp "PD" - Few details are available at this writing. Models with this engine apparently will have badges with "TDI" in all red.
2.5 litre 5-cylinder - used in various larger models available in Europe. The injection system uses a distributor-type pump.
2.5 litre V6 150 hp - used on various Audi-based models (including the VW Passat) starting in 1998. Has 4 valves per cylinder, and uses a distributor-type injection pump. The advantage of using 4 valves per cylinder for a diesel engine is not so much for better breathing, as it is to allow the injection nozzle to be located precisely in the center of the combustion chamber and oriented vertically.
2.5 litre V6 180 hp - differs from the 150 hp model only in the use of common-rail injection instead of the distributor-type pump.
3.3 litre V8 - used on the Audi A8 available in Europe.
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