A B.C. logger is describing his work in northern Russia as "42 days of hell" and advising others to stay away.
"I'd rather go to a Canadian jail than back to Russia," Ken Lucke of Nanaimo said yesterday from his mother's Port Moody home.
MARCO
Thu, Mar 20, 08 at 12:30 AM
I haven't laughed so much from newspaper article in a long time, thank you for that! These two scholars thought they were going to get rich quick by getting logging jobs in Russia? Too hot? Too cold? Bad food? They sound like a couple of cruise ship passengers! As for the coal mining...go for it! The future is in coal! Remember kids...stay in school!!! Living with mom and working in Russia isn't as glamorous as these two make out.
Комменты рулят - давно так не ржал.(Alex) писал(а):MARCO
Thu, Mar 20, 08 at 12:30 AM
Хе-хе. Понятно, врут. У нас там все кучеряво и вотку не пьют.Misha писал(а):Неужели люди верят, что Россия дошла до такого, что лесорубов приглашает из Канады
за бешеные деньги? Да эти ребята из статьи похоже какие-то пройдохи, которые решили
ничего не делая сделать деньги. Если русские работяги не пускали этого кадра в вахтовку
из-за его грязной робы, думаю, что опустился сей кадр из Канады дальше некуда, не иначе,
как памперсы применял вместо обычного способа справления нужды по-крупному, боясь обморозиться.
Ничто другое - масляная, зачуханая роба, работяг в лесу не смутит, только откровенное свинство.
Статья похоже на грязную утку. Жаль, что канадские обыватели воспринимают ее искренне, судя по комментариям.
Ну про это и речь. Страна сплошных приколистов.Misha писал(а): Попросил, думаю, денег, ему предложили поработать, обещали 15 тыс. руб, прикололись и сказали долларов, ну а дальше - сплошное веселье.
15 тыс рублей за 6 недель? Смелое предположение. Это же 600 долларов. Кто ж в России за такие деньги работает? Тем более на лесоповале.Privet2007 писал(а):Я было подивился крутым заработкам Российских лесорубов. 15 килобаксов за 6 недель это ж 120 штук в год! При 13 процентах подоходного налога!!! Да за такие деньги в России все не по фамилии Абрамович ломанулись бы валить лес. Очень тёмная история. Скорее всего, точно "трудности перевода" превратили 15 тысяч рублей в 15 тысяч долларов. Долго, наверное, Сибирские лесорубы размышляли чего это мужик прилетел из Канады рубить лес за 2.5 тысячи рублей в неделю.
Ну ты прикинь если лесорубы получали бы 10 тысяч БАКСОВ в месяц. Они б там на Хаммерах ездили лес рубить, а не жили бы немытые в бараке 
Let's get a few facts straight and feel free to shoot barbs my way. Ken was told 50 cents per cubic meter of wood skidded. Ken agreed to these terms. Ken arrived and was not the "third-generation" logger and "skidderman by trade" as advertised. He is flat out lying, but why point that out. He was not forthcoming about his experience level when he repeatedly contacted me --- not vice versa --- about coming to Russia. 42 days? Another fine story. Bush time --- Ken arrived to camp on the 6th. While Ken's mommy wants to exchange emails, how about I exchange the one too where Ken was told he was free to leave on March 3rd, but he chose to stay in the horrible and horrific camp. 2/6 to 3/3 is not 42 days of hell. Do the math, and it kind of puts a hole in the story. Other interesting math facts. In 25 days, Ken skidded less than 1000 cubic meters, but is owed $15,000? Why point that out too. It gets in the way of the story. Other fact: Ken did not pay $2500 of his own money to get to Russia. Russian company paid approximately $1400 in airfare and approximately $700 in visa fees to get him here. Ken paid for domestic airfare ($600) and change of ticket fee on the return (less than $200). In addition, Ken was told that any luggage over 20 kg domestically would be assessed a fee of approximately $10 per kg by the airline, and the fact that he had to pay excess luggage charges for his own luggage is his own fault and nobody else's. Other fact: Ken arrives here, after money and time has already been invested in him by the Russian company, then suddenly his new wage is $7500 a month. That was never agreed upon by anybody except Ken and his delusions. What $15,000 or any amount means to a Russian is irrelevant here; what is relevant is that Ken arrived having agreed to one thing, quickly showed in the bush that he was not as good as advertised, and then demanded what amounted to an outrageous raise. I repeat, never was Ken told $7500 per month. In spite of all of his maneuvering and whining, he was never promised anything by the owner of the company than the original deal --- 50 cents USD per cubic meter. This BS about "lucky to escape with their lives" --- come on. Ken and Greg were not in any danger, and they know that. "Sleep deprivation" --- getting up in the middle of the night to warm up your machine like everybody else is sleep deprivation? And how many times did you not "hear" your alarm the first three weeks when I was out there in camp and your skidder was froze up the next day? You should put that out too, the fact that you constantly overslept this duty and rarely had your machine fired up and ready to go on time in the morning. Also, did you tell the reporters about the night clubs and the steak dinners that you were quick to scarf down? Was that part of the 42 days of hell? Pretty harrowing stuff. Did you tell your mama too about that? Or, wait, did you just pick and choose what to embellish, what to add, what to subtract, and what to simply make up for your story? It's not so interesting if you would have told the reporter that you were not forthcoming in getting hired regarding your ability; you skidded a maximum of 1000 cubic meters in your 25 days in which the company here wanted, and paid for, you in the bush; approximately $2100 was paid in getting you here but you produced only the equivalent of $500 of logs; you neglected to mention that after you used the banya the first time you said, "that was f'ing great", but now you get back to Canada and there are no washing facilities; you neglect to mention that everybody does their own laundry out there, but apparently that was not on par for you; you neglect to mention that you were told to catch a timber truck back to town on or about the 3rd so that you could get on a plane home, but you stayed in camp; you neglected to mention that during your 42 days of hell you had WiFi internet access at no cost to you; you neglect to mention that I personally paid for all of your phone calls to Cananda made from my cel; you also fail to mention that you traveled half-way around the globe with not one Visa/Mastercard credit or debit card, and thus no access to ATMs. Have use an outhouse? I know for a fact that loggers take a dump in the bush too, so please cry to somebody else about that. Lots of things left out Ken that would not make your story so compelling, and lots of things that were included were pumped up by you into something more that they were not. The only thing that you did not add was the camp was surrounded by barbed-wire, patrolled by wolves, and you all were only let out of your chains for worktime. I find it horribly funny in the story --- When we complained they said, 'Shut your mouth and keep working. You are in Russia now.' " --- where did you ever come up with that? You are so full of it. The only thing missing is accents --- "Shut zee mouthz and keeping work. You in Rossiya now". That would have made better copy, a la a good Cold War film. In addition, where you and Greg come up with your figures is beside me --- $15,000 for you and $23,000 total for him? That must have been after the first joint in Vancouver when you dreamed up your other details. Those figures really add up seeing that the entire output for the period in question was 4000 cubic meters of processed logs, not to mention the amount of that wood that will be rejected because the rot was not processed out of by Greg, and thus a loss for the company here. Greg was paid $5000 USD, more even than the agreed upon $1 per cubic meter for the processor, for the logs processed and scaled. Inconvenient for you and your story, but the Russian company here can document all of the production that took place, and it would not paint such a boo hoo story. It would paint a story of fact --- you are not a skidderman by trade, and you yourself admitted that once you were here. You have bounced from job to job and have not stuck anywhere for some strange reason. You have not stuck because you are not valuable, and you have been, in your words, f'd over in Canada too so do not paint this as a Russia tale. Paint it as a Ken tale because then it will be more factual. Greg does not want his name associated with this because he knows that you are more full of BS than not full of BS, and not because he is having nightmares like your mommy is saying. He probably also does not want to have to pay taxes on the money that he was paid, but since you have both decided to dime me out, he can deal with the tax man if he comes knocking. I could air out other dirty laundry and details here, but I won't. You and I both know that the story that you, Ken, have put out is not the complete truth, and far from it even. This would be a different story if you were paid $20,000 for 25 days of work and Greg was paid $40,000, for instance, as then it would be that Russia is f'ing A super. Suddenly your horror story would not be a horror story. It would not have been so hot, there would have been washing facilities, and everything else that you dreamed up would not have happened. Call the spade a spade, Ken. You are not the super logger that you think you are in your mind, but you do now have 15 minutes of fame. Enjoy it.
НавеялоRUS писал(а): Честно говоря-я сам и много моих коллег по деляне на многое пошли бы чтобы хотя-бя сезон отработать в Канаде.Я сам то уже пробовал пробиться-нарвался на лохотрон-выложил 500$ за оформление раб визы.Хе-хе-хе!Еще приеду!..