Канада занимает позицию.

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Канада занимает позицию.

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Украина теперь будет снова разменной монетой в сливе Харпера.

Спасибо Тоталитарному Симфоническому Оркестру. С него все началось. Точка невозврата.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s enthusiasm for the Ukrainian cause knows no bounds. This summer, Canada will send 200 soldiers to Ukraine to train its military forces after having sent an aid package of $570-million to the Ukrainian government, which is fighting Russian-backed rebel forces in the eastern part of the country. What exactly is Canada doing there, in a conflict that’s going on in the depths of Europe where Canada has no national interest?

The Canadian involvement started with a distinctly undiplomatic move by former foreign minister John Baird. In December, 2013, Mr. Baird paraded on Kiev’s central Maidan square alongside demonstrators hostile to the government then-headed by Russian-influenced president Viktor Yanukovych. Mr. Baird received a hero’s welcome from the crowd. When did Canadian officials start taking sides in the domestic politics of other countries?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-de ... e24072188/
Сам Харпер уже давно таинственно молчит и даже больше не стэнд с Израилем.
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Re: Канада занимает позицию.

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А прикольно, что канацкая пресса в руках либералов. Эти выборы будут такими же цирковыми, как американские, дуэль Сары и Барака.
I suppose we will have to revisit this issue of the strange powers Stephen Harper has acquired to rule the future. Not only does he control his own government, but in the fevered imaginings of the national press, he controls all future governments as well. (Legal scholars are divided. While it is true that governing from the grave is not expressly authorized under the Constitution, neither is it expressly forbidden.)

The first outbreak of this occult panic was over the Conservatives’ proposed balanced budget law. Never mind that the legislation, which no one has yet seen, does not actually mandate balanced budgets, it was the idea that it might mandate anything that had people up in arms. It was unclear which upset them more: that the prime minister should presume to tell future prime ministers whether they could or could not go into deficit, which made it dictatorial, or that the law could in fact be repealed at any time, which made it worthless.
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Former PM Jean Chrétien to meet with Vladimir Putin in Moscow - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... /comments/

И интересные комменты канадцев. Опять нашествие ватников и полное непонимание политики партии и народа, пардон... консервов :D

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Harper's Nuthatch 4 days ago
Good !
A credible statesman from Canada.
Obama probably asked him to go.

The Harper Government™ was bypassed and look like idiots ... once again.

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Free Me 5 days ago
Finally an adult at the table.

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Bravery from the Broom Closet 4 days ago
Ouch !

Little Stevie Blunder must be throwing a hissy fit in his closet.

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Toronto Elite 4 days ago
It is a really sad state of affairs when Canadians have to depend on a former Prime Minister to conduct foreign affairs diplomacy to deal with an tense international issue. How does Harper explain that to Canadians? Does not bode well for Harper and his Reform government especially heading into an election. Is that Harper's take on what leadership is about?

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Harper's Biker Gang Biographer 4 days ago
Gee ... that kinda makes Harper look like a bonehead, doesn't it ?

Especially as Barack Obama probably asked Chrétien to go.

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A Knot in String Theory 4 days ago
Chrétien will tell Putin to bide his time until the Harper Government™ pinheads are thrown out of office.

Canada can then come at the issue pragmatically instead of ideologically.

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Vladimir and Estragon in Kiev 4 days ago
It's telling that the Globe would go to U. of C. for "informed commentary".

They are about as good at diplomacy as they are at economics

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LoonerLander 4 days ago
One thing is certain. Unlike Harper and his constant and cowardly long distance bellicosity directed towards Russia as a means of attracting the ethnic vote, Chretien will spend actual face time with Putin and it won't be for votes. It will be for the purpose of getting something done in a way that mature adults do business. Note that long time Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov decided to boycott the Arctic Council this year because of Harper's childish rants. And then, to show the world the depth of the Harper Government's petulance and immaturity, Harper had his Inuk poodle Leona curtly introduce the Russian guy who did show up.

Canada: Haven't you seen enough of this dog and pony kid's show yet?

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The Last Truthbender 5 days ago
amazing what a canadian leader can do when he doesn't have to pander to an ethnic group

a refreshing difference from that loud mouth ineffective foreign minister baird

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CJMOM1 5 days ago
I have to laugh. Clearly the Reformacon commenters are deeply troubled by Chretien even after he has been out of power for more then a decade. And they should be. After the foolish baiting of the last year Putin will never be seen to engage with Harper.

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THatcher 5 days ago
What is seldom reported in the west is that Putin has always supported a similar "federal" status for eastern Ukraine that Quebec enjoys inside Canada.

That was also a cornerstone of the Minsk II Agreement, something Kiev has yet to take any action on. They have been too busy rewriting world history in their school textbooks.

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Artster 5 days ago
Chretien understands what diplomacy means unlike the reactionary we have as PM today. Chretien also understands that it is beyond amateurish to treat foreign policy as a domestic vote-buying strategy at all times.

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Rick Taves1 5 days ago
Mr. Harper has no time to meet with anyone with whom he disagrees. Moreover, he has a hockey game he does not want to miss.
Thank goodness someone will talk to the Russians. Perhaps some one will talk to the Iranians.
Our leader has time only for Netanyahu.

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GABRIOLA3 4 days ago
“The government of Canada’s position on..." Has Harper decided to return the government to Canada? How very good of him.

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integrity3 5 days ago
The new Cold War will not last. Our government's posture is miss construed idealism.
It is time we get a leadership which deals is real politics. We look quite childish on the global scene. It is a mistake to think that the current Ukrainian government represents all of Ukraine - it will not last.

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trapeze 5 days ago
Harper's brand of megaphone diplomacy is to point the loudspeaker at potential voters.

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anotheroldguy 5 days ago
Real Politick?

Harper thinks that means In and Out schemes to fleece taxpayers for the benefit of Harper and the CPC;

and praising the Old Duff for being his 'hardest working appointee'. Can't wait for Princess Pam's lawyer to defend on the basis of no one told her she couldn't follow the Harper approved Duffster model.

My word, that Harper guy surely is living up to his promises on reforming the Senate and all that. Reforming who sups from the trough, is job one for Mr. Open and Accountable.

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Zadok the Priest 5 days ago

Chretien actually talking to Putin may just accomplish more for Ukrainians and Canadians than any of Harper's frothing at the mouth and brandishing his little stick (from the safety of his closet) ever will.

He certainly won't be doing the damage Harper has done -

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Sima Nan 4 days ago
Russia will save the day.

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jenjin 5 days ago
Bravo, Mr. Chretien! Give Putin the respect he deserves as the leader of the important and powerful Russia.

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Помню про Буша говорили - "недоросль в белом доме"
У нас похоже теперь есть свой бушик :s3:
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Ха ха, Обаму хорошо защемили тоже.
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посмотрим, кто будет расставлять смайлики после выборов в Канаде ...
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Gadi писал(а):посмотрим, кто будет расставлять смайлики после выборов в Канаде ...
Уже консолидация против консерваторов началась. Либералы конечно еще хуже г. Но это как консервам надо было себя вести, чтобы такого импичмента добиться.
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А про какой импичмент идет речь? Я новостей пару дней не смотрел, может чего упустил
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Hairy Potter писал(а):А про какой импичмент идет речь? Я новостей пару дней не смотрел, может чего упустил
А как Януковичу помните импичмент организовали. Вот оно и возвращаеися палкой.
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сильная опозиция, это хорошо.
это канада, деточка
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elena S. писал(а):сильная опозиция, это хорошо.
это канада, деточка
Одна оппозиция трахается с другой за кто больше бабок отгребет. И все дела. Та же диктатура, только больше госрасходов.
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The meeting was a slap to the government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper, which has moved to politically isolate the Russian leader, blaming him for the unrest in Ukraine and Russia's annexation of Crimea last year http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/chretien ... -1.2352238
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mikei ты что ли не работаешь из офиса? в сёднешней бульварной газетке есть это. жирным выделено, не представляет канадское правительство
Но вообще с Россией надо иметь хорошие деловые отношения, это на пользу канаде.
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nonn писал(а):mikei ты что ли не работаешь из офиса? в сёднешней бульварной газетке есть это. жирным выделено, не представляет канадское правительство
Но вообще с Россией надо иметь хорошие деловые отношения, это на пользу канаде.
Собственно, непонятно почему ватники так ратуют за хорошие отношения с российским Гитлером.
Через какое-то время сами будут попрекать этими отношениями как попрекают (и справедливо) мюнхенский сговор.
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